[23:50:45] * iris87 has joined #energyworks [23:50:46] http://www.wisdomsdoor.com. Welcome to Wisdomsdoor Official chat channel iris87 [23:51:03] hi again! [23:51:29] seems very quiet here today [23:51:31] Iris: I had a weird dream two weeks ago the night after you led the workshop. A rhino shaped cloud approached me and also a woman who introduced herself as Iris. We entered the cloud and felt a blissful moment there until I was blown out because I lost my concentration. [23:51:59] ;) [23:52:36] iris [23:52:42] By bliss I mean happiness being next to the Source, not sexual sensation. [23:53:22] that's what i thought [23:53:41] iris you said hi to him :O [23:53:42] ? [23:53:43] it would be interesting if the rhino was your power animal [23:54:05] I don't know what's my power animal. [23:54:12] sorry, I said Hi to everyone! [23:54:40] * electra937 has joined #energyworks [23:54:40] http://www.wisdomsdoor.com. Welcome to Wisdomsdoor Official chat channel electra937 [23:55:17] iris ive been waiting for this thursday to ask about hemi-sync [23:55:18] * electra has quit IRC ("Bye bye" ) [23:55:27] is it safe, healthy, will t mess with m ynatural flow? [23:55:36] will it mess with my natural flow* [23:56:55] the shamans believe that everyone has a power animal associated with him/her [23:57:14] they can change from lifetime to lifetime but they are with us to help [23:57:32] I love the bliss thing - that's great [23:58:09] so iris87 :O? [23:58:29] back to hemi-sync? [23:58:44] yes i wanted to ask about that [23:59:18] [16:54:26] is it safe, healthy, will t mess with m ynatural flow? [23:59:19] [16:54:35] will it mess with my natural flow* [23:59:20] ok Session Time: Fri Jan 30 00:00:01 2009 [00:00:54] I don't think so - I would think it would do the opposite [00:01:33] hmmm ill ask hermes next week :D [00:02:21] Iris: I want to know about travel meditation. [00:02:30] Isn't it supposed to help you block out distractions and help you focus? [00:03:15] but then it can affect you physically [00:03:54] have you tried it? [00:04:00] no [00:04:03] and then we [00:04:05] i have been waiting for you or hermes [00:04:16] ill just ask him next week :D [00:04:23] ok [00:05:01] Nahkahil, do you have any knowledge of travel meditation [00:05:05] did you say hi to NahkahiiR in his dream with the cloud? [00:06:06] Hermes said something about it, travelling to some place other than my current location in the meditation but that doesn't tell me much. [00:06:10] not much "talking" in that reality [00:06:33] As my meditation is usually just keeping a clear mind. [00:06:45] No hovering in the air. [00:07:15] it's not hovering in the air for most people [00:07:15] Sometimes nothing happens, which is ok, or I hear voices from my inner self. [00:07:47] This is about accessing the Tree of Life. [00:07:50] NahkahiiR [00:07:55] Wicked? [00:08:02] you are talking about the ether plane im assuming? [00:08:33] Nope. [00:08:51] Well. I guess travel meditation goes there. [00:08:58] Does it? [00:09:06] "traveling someplace else then your location" would be ether plane unless your talking about astral [00:09:16] which means you obe and you can see your body lieing there [00:09:22] when you travel meditate, one usually starts by quieting the mind as in any meditation [00:09:34] Go on. [00:09:51] then images may appear before you [00:10:01] or colors [00:10:13] you may feel like you are moving very fast [00:10:46] it is not clear as physical reality [00:11:18] and when you see another being, you just know what they are saying without words [00:11:41] More like, sensing with insticts? [00:12:03] some people actuallu OBE and can see themselves in the room but that is the exception more than the rule [00:12:16] yes, exactly like sensing [00:12:45] the more you do it the more you learn to recognize and experience [00:13:05] That applies to everything in life. [00:13:15] yes [00:13:51] and sometimes we don't get any visuals, or sounds or smells [00:14:11] Well I have seen images and stuff but never had the sense of movement. [00:14:23] Or I just didn't pay attention to that. [00:14:43] Is it possible to "dive" into the images when you see them? [00:14:50] yes, you may not have realized it [00:14:52] i had the sense of movement only one/three times [00:15:06] yes you can "dive" into them [00:15:17] Hmm. [00:15:27] I'll be more alert next time. [00:15:40] iris do you see the ap vividly, like the psychal world? [00:15:58] the movement often comes when you are traveling far in the Tree [00:16:18] phsyical* [00:16:24] I see malkuth very clearly as the physical world [00:16:39] nice :D [00:16:44] it's close to the physical plane so it's the easiest [00:17:12] but as we move up the sephiras, the physicalness disappears [00:17:25] and it is much more like being in a Cloud [00:17:54] like the rhino dream [00:18:00] Couple of days ago I had a dream where I became lucid and my first thought was "I want to go to Malkuth!" I didn't see anything or just a subtle glow (I don't remember if there was any color) but I heard voices and the only message that I remember was "Let it go." [00:18:21] I got a feeling that it was from some guide or something. [00:18:36] see, that's great! [00:18:53] and that's how it is many times [00:19:04] :) [00:19:14] remember, these experiences exist on many levels [00:20:25] we don't always recognize what is going on physically - but each trip brings with it something for us to learn and evolve [00:20:58] try to just love the experience - whatever it is [00:21:12] iris can you see malkuth vividly in a light meditative state? [00:21:32] yes [00:21:49] but I've been there many many times [00:21:57] how much is tht? [00:22:03] it wasn't like that in the beginning [00:22:17] how many times and how was it before? [00:22:30] oh, years of traveling there [00:23:21] in the beginning it was like the other sephiras - dreamlike or "cloud-like" [00:23:55] and vague images would cross my mind [00:24:18] Dreams have always been close to my heart... maybe I'm already an experienced TOL traveller. I just don't know it. :) [00:24:18] i am extremely sleepy, i have been sleeping 4 hours every day this whole week, so im going to nap [00:24:40] ok [00:24:53] maybe you will join us in your nap [00:24:59] :) [00:25:09] maybe :O [00:25:11] :D [00:25:23] and yes, you can be an experienced TOL traveler and not recogonize that you were doing it [00:26:36] we began this type of meditation many years ago in a group and we didn't realize what was going on until we started comparing our meditations [00:27:16] over and over again we were experiencing the same things [00:27:29] Cool. :) [00:27:38] and little by little the pieces of the puzzle came together [00:28:18] everything we need to learn is in the Tree [00:28:29] 10 days ago I realized that I shouldn't try to see something that others are seeing. I'm just doing my own thing. [00:28:39] and it is full of loving beings who just want to help us on our journeys [00:28:51] Today I asked archangel Gabriel to give me joy and clarity. [00:29:06] What I got was a burning feeling in my solar plexus. [00:29:13] ill think about kether and my spirit guide while going to slap [00:29:16] cya [00:29:17] yes, do your own thing - this journey is a very personal one [00:29:21] going to sleep* [00:29:30] Have a good nap. :) [00:29:38] nite [00:29:59] the burning in the solar plexis is common [00:30:13] that's energy [00:30:45] sometimes enters through the crown and sometimes through the solar plexis [00:30:59] For years I have been like a wooden log, without feeling energies. [00:31:14] that has been all of us [00:31:15] But the last few months, whooosh. [00:32:03] oh yes, things can go very fast once that door opens [00:32:51] I always think of a small child - [00:33:12] they will sit and sit for months without walking [00:33:44] but, when they are ready they learn in a very short time and then there is no stopping them! [00:34:17] it's the same here [00:34:32] Yeah. [00:35:05] we just need to be ready and want it [00:35:35] When I want to go forward I use to ask angels to give me challenges. [00:36:14] or ask them to help you [00:36:46] I've been a little reluctant to do that. [00:37:02] It felt so nuts. [00:37:05] they are always at our side waiting for us to ask [00:37:15] But few days ago I did something that changed me. [00:37:30] ?[00:38:24] When I was skiing on the sea, at one point I took the skiis off and yelled as loud as I could, rolled in the snow and talked to myself. It felt very puzzling at first but later I got a feeling that it's very natural and anything is possible. [00:39:03] YES! [00:39:23] and that is called letting go! [00:39:28] I did the same today, my inner child rejoices. :) [00:39:57] it is very freeing [00:40:05] Exactly. [00:40:42] let's us step beyond physical restraints [00:41:29] which we need to do to experience everything beyond physical reality [00:41:43] I found the poet in myself. [00:42:01] the creative self [00:42:23] Creativity for the win. [00:42:38] Unlimited source of fun. [00:42:59] so much fun! [00:43:41] are we meditating today? [00:43:55] I hope so. [00:44:02] me too [00:44:11] anyone else? [00:44:19] Wicked in his dreams. :) [00:44:34] of course! [00:45:48] So the schedule mentioned travel meditation to Kether... [00:46:05] well, the plan was to go to Kether [00:46:13] Ok. [00:46:32] if you want to try for another one instead it's ok with me [00:46:47] No no, anything is good. :) [00:47:19] well, maybe we'll just see where our guides take us! [00:48:04] Kether is at the top of the tree so to speak [00:48:37] as malkuth is the sephira closest to the earth plane, Kether is the sephira closest to the devine [00:48:43] divine [00:49:15] so. it is very removed from physical reality [00:49:58] Is it like the hardest to visit, then? [00:49:58] great lessons but often difficult to translate into the physical [00:50:28] * electra937 has quit IRC ("Bye bye") [00:50:34] humm [00:51:21] no, but sometimes the hardest experiences to explain [00:51:25] * electra has joined #energyworks [00:51:26] http://www.wisdomsdoor.com. Welcome to Wisdomsdoor Official chat channel electra [00:51:28] I see. [00:51:57] because it is so far removed from physical reality [00:52:12] it is quite beautiful [00:52:38] and I would say, for me, more feeling experience than visual [00:53:18] Interesting. [00:53:52] the more you travel the sephiras, the more you will see their individual natures [00:54:16] You are repeating yourself, heh. [00:54:24] just relax, keep an open and empty mind and enjoy the ride! [00:54:52] so, are we ready? [00:54:57] Sure. [00:55:08] ok then let's do it [00:55:13] 15 mins? [00:55:20] Yes [00:55:41] Iris is meditating and will return in 15 min [00:59:28] * Tachyony has quit IRC (";)") [01:10:16] Huh. [01:12:21] I saw hands doing stuff and rooms of some house and a muffled shout to the right of me. [01:13:01] And immediately when I started meditating I felt that I was being pulled somewhere. [01:14:38] First hand was holding a blue thing, probably a ticket. In the second image I saw two hands moving and planting something green. Then one hand seemed to give me a pink bag of some kind. Then in the last image two hands were folding a white paper. [01:18:40] The first room of the house was kitchen, beige shelves and very much light coming from the window. The second room had a 3' tall red-brown wooden clock with curvy furniture and the last room was kind of children's room with light blue walls, a table was there and some toys lying around. [01:19:14] Lots of images. [01:20:09] you certainly had lots of images! [01:20:14] Then I saw a blueish crystal glimmering at one point, very bright. [01:20:57] Oh, the shout came from outside as I heard another one just now. [01:21:13] It startled me during the meditation. :) [01:21:25] it happens [01:23:01] This meditation gave me lots to think about. [01:23:05] the crystal I saw was like a globe [01:23:25] What was its color? [01:23:45] whitish and blue [01:23:59] sort of white and blue [01:24:11] ! [01:24:47] that was given to us along with a scepter - I think that's the spelling [01:25:04] The one I saw was mostly looking white because it was so bright but had a blue glimmer around it. [01:25:23] yes! [01:25:56] like illuminated [01:26:08] Yes. [01:26:19] I've never seen that before [01:26:29] It was new to me as well. [01:26:56] it was beautiful [01:27:18] Sure it was, although it didn't last long. [01:27:24] Maybe 2 seconds. [01:27:34] agreed [01:27:59] Did you experience anything else? [01:28:19] it was placed in our hands [01:28:34] and then it was gone [01:28:58] I saw Metatron - a young boy [01:29:29] Heh, maybe the last room was Metatron's. ;) [01:30:44] you saw it as a child's room? [01:31:02] Yes. Blue walls, toys lying around. [01:31:34] well, that's interesting [01:32:07] I didn't see a house but the planting could have been in Malkuth [01:32:24] we go through there to enter the rest of the tree [01:32:49] The hands didn't look like young boy's hands. [01:33:15] maybe, older, wiser hands? [01:33:21] More like man in his 30's. [01:34:09] probably like the ones I saw holding the globe [01:34:54] These images were quite vivid. [01:35:02] I was surprised of them. [01:35:33] it's amazing, isn't it? [01:35:36] Each of them lasted 1-2 seconds and between them was about 30 seconds pause with nothingness. [01:35:55] Yes. I think I understand what travel meditation is about. [01:36:01] yes, that's how it is [01:36:48] I try to link those images in that inbetween time so I won't forget [01:37:18] but sometimes stuff comes back to me the following day [01:37:47] and I'm sure a lot happens that we don't bring back [01:38:01] but that's ok [01:38:15] I hope next night's dream will give some answers to what the hands' actions meant. [01:38:17] I'm glad you're getting a sense of travel meditation [01:38:28] and that may happen [01:38:44] Holding, planting, giving, folding... [01:39:11] It feels like a skill being developed. [01:39:15] great observation [01:41:08] and you were given a gift in that pink bag [01:41:23] I agree. :) [01:42:01] pink is the color of love - not love between partners, more like the love of a parent for a child [01:43:18] pure love without reservation [01:43:36] The last image actually looked like the hands were mine (as the other three were pointing towards me) and I was the one folding the paper, thus using the skill that was given. [01:44:06] yes! [01:45:20] that was part of your personal journey - a sign of accomplishment [01:47:11] you had a great meditation - you have accomplished a great deal today! [01:47:34] True. [01:49:33] It's late, almost 2am here. [01:49:39] I have to sleep. [01:49:51] Thanks, it was a good session today. :) [01:49:52] and an even clearer understanding may "unfold" over the next few days [01:50:28] oh yes! 2 am! get some sleep [01:50:29] Yeah, following days are always important after such experiences. [01:50:48] oh yes [01:51:08] thank you also - great meditation [01:51:12] :) [01:51:15] Good night. [01:51:21] good night